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2PM fans claim that facts don’t line up with JYPE’s announcement

Fans are swept in shock after JYP Entertainment released information regarding Jaebum’s contract termination.

Fans are stating that this is ‘a groundless rumor’ and that JYP Entertainment is engaging in media play. Fans have fallen into panic mode, causing the official homepage to crash and are heading towards the JYPE building.

Fans are rejecting a statement within the announcement that claimed that the members of 2PM agreed to Jaebum’s withdrawal on the 6th of January.

“JYPE is just engaging in media play. The rest of the members are wanting Jaebum’s return.”

The date of January 6th is said to be a problem because of the following reasons.

On the 3rd of February at Seoul’s Gayo Daejun, 2PM had won the bonsang, in which Junho stated in his award speech, “I would like to thank Jaebum hyung for working hard with us.”

On the 14th of February, Nichkhun made a statement regarding Jaebum on his Thailand trip saying, “He’s an awesome hyung. I miss him.”

Fans are claiming that if the members agreed to Jaebum’s terminations, they would not have said such things.

“They had no idea of Jaebum’s withdrawal which is why they said such things. The company knew that the boycotting by fans will effect the income of the company and are throwing him away.”

  • May be taken out with full credits. You are not allowed add yourself to the credits nor edit the credits.
  • CREDITS : TV REPORT (SOURCE), hazyfiasco@2ONEDAY.COM (TRANS)

Some updates from 2Oneday:

http://cafe.daum.net/2PM in jjts 4 hours there are 283,212 members in the cafe and are going down every minute, so they’ve lost 45,000 in 4 hours
- After a few minutes it went down to 282,990

Cyworlds: Taecyeon has closed his cyworld and Junsu has closed down his photo box and comment box.

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95 Responses

  1. http://insider2pm.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/the-biggest-lie-of-it-all-please-read/

    Read with open mind please..
    Don’t just tell us to not boycott.

  2. [...] decided that this is unforgivable. The rest of members of 2PM agree with Jeabum’s leaving of 2PM. This is an article of what JYP [...]

  3. well i was 2pm fan but i didn’t like them beacause of jay i ust liked seeing them all together ,, having fun and seeing their smiles,,

    but i think it’s not the same if one member is missing but good luck for them but i’m not a fan anymore

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  5. [...] 2PM fans claim that facts don’t line up with JYPE’s announcement [...]

  6. [...] 2PM fans claim that facts don’t line up with JYPE’s announcement [...]

  7. JYPE should have figured that their statement could bring this chaos.

    It was bad that JYP broke his promise to the Hottest, and now with his company issueing this not-smart statement, I couldn’t blame Hottest’s uproar.

    I think Hottest would slowly accepted Jaebum’s termination if he and JYP made the announcement. Not throught but face to fan with fans.

    If Jaebum had personal problem that prohibit him from being with 2PM again, then fans should accept it.

    But for JYPE to say that the problem is more bigger than the last problem is a stupid thing. Now they gave something for the fans to think and hate them more.

  8. ….. So pissed..
    All this mess because of ONE girl.. who brought some facts that happened so many years ago……….

  9. yea they may want jay to return but it doesn’t mean he’s going to.
    they should just respect his wishes.

  10. please just wait for things to clear up…. and stop making all this conclusions.. goodness.. this is all just guessing…. let’s hear what jyp has more to say…..

  11. I somehow feel that Jay is not coming back for sure but I just want JYPE to stop creating drama n be more straightforward.
    However, it’s too late. It’s apparent that JYPE has lied in the 1st place. Talking bullshit about Jay is coming back as 2pm. Probably also lied to the 6 members…Giving false hope while promoting Heartbeat…. I even knew that they were just trying to test the water. Will 2pm be ok without jay? N everything seems OK n now he said that Jay will never come back. Biggest bullshit ever.
    They can just say that Jay is living happily n doesn’t feel like coming back. No need to put another blame on him n make him a bad guy. It won’t save the company reputation.
    JYPE is very good in ruining its artists….
    Whatever happen to J-lim n GSoul n Min??
    The constant change of members in his groups.
    GOD = YoonKyesang quitted n the leader also almost quitted.
    WG = Hyuna n now Sunmi
    2PM = Jay
    Not to mention they constantly threw 2am from JYPE to its sister companies. Treated them like trash.
    ParkJiyoon’s ugly case against JYP…
    Ugh…I dunno what to believe anymore other than the fact that business is indeed dirty.
    Need to prepare my self for the workforce.

  12. jyp i knew you were just using 159pm as a marketing ploy. i don’t know what to believe anymore. so much drama. as much as i’ve lost interest in 2pm post idol army, i feel bad for the remaining members. these “fans” aren’t helping by withdrawing. the other boys didn’t ask to be in this position…

  13. I am not an avid fan but I somehow like the group because they are really talented… just wanna say that I am really saddened by what happened…

  14. I think “OneDay” is an idiot. Why are you so heavily emphasizing that it’s jae’s fault. Any one with iota of PR or even decency, no matter who is at fault would not deem appropriate smearing someone’s dignity by stating that there was a bigger mistake at stake that “forced” the company to terminate ties with them. What kind of lasting impression is a “respectable” and “professional” company leaving for fans who support and love their idols. You strike me “oneday” as some one with some wit and understanding of the machinery of human behavior. Yet, with you the letters all capitalized you come off historical.

  15. Whether its all lies or its the truth, I wish 2PM and JaeBum the best. These past months must’ve been hard for them so I hope they find happiness soon.

  16. If Jay come back, we all know that 2PM popularity will increase, right?
    then for JYP, it means more benefits = money $$$

    And JYP knows that if Jay doesn’t comeback, then it’s going to disappoint a lot of persons. And MAYBE lose money (because of a boycott or idk..)

    Then, there should be something that prevent JYP to take back Jay, right?

    1) if the statement isn’t a lie, then we know the “reason”.

    2) but if it’s a lie like the fans said, then what would be the real reason?

    I’ve read in the “inside2pm” website that JYP doesn’t Jay back because of the slave contract.
    But this is the past. We all forget about that.

    I’m really confused.
    Can someone help me? lol

  17. i’m only confused.
    so if the 2pm members allready about this in januari.

    they give us false hope that jae bum could return all this time. liars too?

    btw nice way to protect the secret of jb that he did an onther mistake. jype could better say that he don’t want to come back in korea instead.

    now the netizens/ media are trying to do anything to dig up what jb did wrong.

    • IT IS STILL A BUSINESS AFTER ALL. 2PM MEMBERS CAN’T JUST SAY THAT JAY IS COMING BACK WITHOUT JYP’S APPROVAL. accept that jay would be coming back to 2pm. period. end of story.

  18. I wish khottest didn’t do that..they should support the boys instead..the boys probably in so much stress right now..

  19. I really, really, really hope that the fans who stopped being listed on 2PM’s fan cafe would somehow learn to accept what has happened in the future and realize that there are 6 remaining boys still to love and support. I hope their fan cafe would gain these fans (or newer fans) in the future.

    Personally, I think fans’ reaction are inevitable. The news was put out all of a sudden. It was like a bomb finally exploding in front of their faces, instead of that pleasant surprise they were expecting. Come to think of it, that 1:59 album really made a lot of people hope that Jay would come back. I mean I’m not a fan, but my initial reaction was all of this was BS. The dates and reasons were a bit hazy at first, you really have to have a calm mind to digest and try to understand it. Most fans don’t have that kind of tolerance now, so they’re reacting this way. Like Jay, JYPE and 2PM, let’s try to give these hottests some time to grieve and get mad and whatever — I believe and hope that real hottests would be reasonable once their shock and grievances were aired.

    Still the best of luck to Jay, 2PM and JYP/JYPE.

  20. the thing that irks me the most was all the
    “jaebum hyung, come back soon”, “we’ll wait for you leader”, blah blah blah..

    i think if jaebum did something terrible, then alright kick him out. HOWEVER, do tell the fans…and lying and pretending that there’s a glimpse of hope is just awful.

    I really likeD 2pm and whether you think im a fan or not, i know i am. but if there are any other doubt in my mind, it’s that there is a discrepancy in the what 2pm 6 members are saying and what the story is…

    if it is true, i cannot support a group that’s full of liars. their pain or not, that’s deceitful and people can’t tolerate that.

    on jyp’s end, we don’t know what the story is so the man is something crazy for sure.

  21. I guess Hottests are gonna be butthurt fans forever since they can’t accept the fact that Jaebum ain’t coming back to 2PM.

    These over-the-top obsession might’ve even drove Jaebum to quit permanently. And I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case.

  22. Boo hoo. GEt over it. Support the guys that are left. If you don’t, then that just meant you were a fan of Jaebeom and Jaebeom only, NOT 2PM. And go ahead and say that 2PM isn’t 2PM without Jay but currently, it is. So, either support 2PM or don’t and stop causing problems.

  23. I know that everyone is upset by all this news, but to stop being a fan of 2PM is really hurting the other members. If we’re going through such a hard time right now, I could only imagine what the other members are going through. Though I am hurt about Jaebom, I will still support and love the other members. I adore 2PM, and will continue to adore 2PM with Jaebom in my memory…

  24. I’d like to point out that just because the members clearly aren’t mad/upset with Jaebum doesn’t mean they want to promote with him. He might have done something that would damage the groups reputation as a whole and they may find their careers more important so they’re willing to let him go.

  25. first of all im really sad that jay could not return to 2pm. and i also commend him for confessing to jype what he had DONE WRONG. but because of that his contract was terminated. it must have been something BAD ( AND I MEAN SO BAD BAD BAD BAD) that his conract was terminated. i think it was a right decision for him to confess because it was the right thing to do. It was courageous of him to do it. Before confessing I AM SURE HE THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO HIM IF HE CONFESSED BUT HE STILL DID. KUDOS FOR HIM FOR TAKING RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT HE DID.

    i feel sad for the 2pm members because they really worked their butts to be where they are right now but now their SO CALLED FANS ARE LEAVING THEM. @_@ wtf. i think it is more suitable if we call them FANS OF JAY. @_@ pls CONTINUE TO SUPPORT 2PM AND JAY.

    • AFTER READING ALL THE OTHER COMMENTS, I WONDER WHY PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS BLAMING JYPE. I MEAN ITS JAY’S FAULT. WHY BLAME THE COMPANY? @_@ ITS JUST RIGHT THAT JAY TOOK RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT HE DID. everything we do has its effects. and unfortunately this is what happened to jay.

      • maybe cause even if Jay is at fault..the company should stand by his side and fight with him or protect him.
        thats what most fans probably want..

        since they didnt see any “protecting” of JYPE to Jay now fans are dropping…

      • HE IS AT FAULT. SO DO YOU WANT TO FIGHT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG? even if he is wrong you still want to fight with him? @_@ THATS NOT RIGHT. just protect him. and that is what jype is doing THATS WHY THEY DID NOT REVEAL WHAT JAY DID. THEYRE TRYING TO PRESERVE WHATEVER REPUTATION JAY HAS EVEN AT THEIR OWN COST. IM NOT CONNECTED IN JYPE IN ANY WAY BUT THIS IS JUST WRONG.

      • lol we have a jype stan in the house!

  26. the saddest thing about all of this is the rest of 2pm ( whom also worked their asses off ) seeing their fans who supported them since the very beginning leaving them 1 by 1 ….

  27. this is stupid

    what more hottest want?

  28. I think its a lie.
    If its not a lie,
    I’m going to fly to Seattle & kidnap him back to S. Korea.
    (just to make some hottests laugh after crying D; )

  29. Jay shouldn’t go back to a company where their just going to fling him aside like an insect.

    they should have told the truth from the beginning
    but no they had to use him as a marketing tactic
    and no put all the blame on him making themselves looking innocent as if they were trying to bring him back all along.

    i feel sorry for the other boys but this is bulll

  30. Like seriously you don’t even know what’s going inside JYPE right now. I am not taking side. I love 2PM but the Jae issue don’t bother me at all. Even if my fav member Chansung left I wouldn’t cry over it. It’s all a part of life. Get over it.

  31. Everyone is so quick to blame as they read the title.

  32. People are just assuming and jumping to conclusion.

  33. I just wanna no what he did that was worse then the my space comments in the again and again promo time!

  34. he is a VERY talented guy. he was filled with undeniable charisma. scary thing is, he has yet to still fill his potential.

    jyp will not let a gem like that go to waste. a business needs to profit and hes their ace. aside from using him for money, jyp family adores him. they want him back for their own greed, but they also respect him a lot more. what if jaebum really did commit something horrible? fans in disbelief will not believe anything unless it comes from jaebum. we take jyp for granted, hes the only line of connection between jaebum and the fans. we probably dont take jyp’s comments to heart, but we should still be optimistic about it all.

    it hasnt even been 6 months since his departure? let jaebum rest some more. drastic changes in someones life, going from a normal boyhood life to kpop extraordinaire, back to adulthood at a humble town, then back to the biggest comeback in recent times to kpop is a little bit extreme dont ya think. all for what? to satisfy diehard fans yet piss off others?

    • in all honesty, i am deeply saddened as well.
      i remember watching him through idol army and wild bunny.
      and their 10 out of 10 promotions (bad hair days) and his exceptionally high backflip during 2008′s mbc gayo daejun i think it was, right before wonder girl’s tango performance.

      ill miss him. i wont blame anyone in this situation. jyp didnt lie in my eyes, jyp isnt the one to blame. really, there doesnt need to be someone to blame. just gotta keep the head up as we all know jaebum, regardless of what anyone says, will return. just not now.

  35. [...] controversy? Sorry, but in my opinion, I have a feeling that he may have raped a trainee. And now fans are saying it’s lies and that it’s media play. Those fans are a bit [...]

  36. not a fan
    but seriously he’s very talented guy!
    oh hell..he juz left kpopworld!
    i thought jype is gonna have this fanmeeting on 27feb? & why now their revealed this damn thing?
    THIS WAS SOO “….O F F….”!!!!!!

  37. http://cafe.daum.net/2PM in jjts 4 hours there are 283,212 members in the cafe and are going down every minute, so they’ve lost 45,000 in 4 hours
    – After a few minutes it went down to 282,990

    Cyworlds: Taecyeon has closed his cyworld and Junsu has closed down his photo box and comment box.”

    o_0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    JYP is a gOOd Drama writer >_>

  38. Where does it say Jay did something wrong apart from the My Space incident?

    I’m getting really frustrated now, I think either way if he’s coming back or not JYP should just inform fans already. Fair enough maybe Jay and the other members are prevented from saying anything. But JYP should release a statement instead of just frustrating Hottests.

    I’m starting to think he won’t come back now. At first I thought with all the protest and faith from Hottest JYP couldn’t ignore it forever. But now its been so long and 2PM have already said they are making a comeback in the summer. In which case if Jay is to be a part of that he would need to have returned to Korea by now. Don’t know what to think to be honest, don’t like JYP for handling things though, i’ve lost respect for them.

  39. 282 133 daum members now…i feel bad for 2PM. urgh.

    and seriously, JYPE PR team have the worst PR i ever seen. even if Jay DID commit a huge mistake, why mention it in the first place? just release something like how happy he is in seattle now, idol life dun suit him blah blah. they are just asking for shit to be stir up. AND giving jay a VERY bad name too

  40. i’ll be waiting until saturday come ..
    but now i’m confused and feeling sad ..T_T
    even Taecyeon closed his Cyworld ><"
    hope that's all lie ..

  41. until full concrete is given im not believing anyone. all i can believe is that Jay is in america and not with 2PM. why bother stressing so much.

  42. Why didn’t they announce this in their conference?

    I feel they handled this situation unproffesionally.

    Why would they state: he left due to a bad thing he did while promoting AAA? & if they act surprised to the questioning of fans wow! they are really ignorant.

    they are basically saying : JAY LEFT. YEAH.BUT HIS CHOICE. HE DID SOMETHING REALLY BAD IN THE SUMMER . WORSE THAN MYSPACE. BUT WE CANT SAY. TOO PERSONAL FOR JAY. << after you basically say everything BUT the main info ¬_¬

  43. “http://cafe.daum.net/2PM in jjts 4 hours there are 283,212 members in the cafe and are going down every minute, so they’ve lost 45,000 in 4 hours
    - After a few minutes it went down to 282,990″

    this doesn’t add up, are you saying that before this news 2pm have 283,212+45,000=328,212 in their daum? if yes then WOW
    i think they only lost 4,500 not 45,000

    ANYWAY THE FANS THAT LEAVE ARE NOT TRUE FANS ANYWAY

  44. something happened during A&A promotions..???
    com’on…im not buying this! i mean..
    ..they live in the roof..!!!& recently jay went on this “allstyle dance battle…and he look fine …! i mean if he done wrong.. definitely feel guilty to appear on those battle rite????

    • i think he really did nothing wrong. jype stated he called dec 22nd 2009 3 days before xmas. to all of a something says he did something so wrong.

      i dont think he did anything wrong but lied about it. so he dont have to return. when it is the xmas season you are enjoying time with family and friends especially if you have not seen them in so long.

      i doubt he wanted to go away from that. therefore in order to not be forced to return he decided to say he done something so bad so his contract can be ended.

  45. Hell hath no fury like a fangirl scorned!

    What the 2PM members say seems more like a friend missing another friend. Even if your friend withdrew, are you not suppose to speak of him anymore?
    Anyway, let’s see how JYPE handles this issue.

  46. What I hate most about this is that people are stopping supporting 2PM. They are not at fault! It’s their company!

    • that’s what i hate too.

      • as much as i love jaebum and would definitely want him back any minute, i do agree with u.. i pity the other members.. they too had an equal share on how successful 2pm is today.. they too work hard to achieve this dream..

  47. And I just realized, since they say Jay’s contract with JYPE is completely terminated, he can say something now right? He won’t be under control with JYPE anymore.

    But I guess he won’t say anything because he cares about the remaining 6. huhu.

  48. By saying Jay’s contract is terminated, and because it is officially announced, bringing Jay back is such a small glimmer of coming true.

    But what I hate most about this announcement is that Jay’s name has to completely go down too. If he has to leave 2pm, why can’t they just let him leave with whatever good reputation he has? Do they have to say “a much worse personal problem that the remaining 6 decided that they can’t promote with Jay anymore?”

    And what I hate most about this, is they have to drag it out until now. I mean, to all who says fans’ effort are futile or whatever, bear in mind that the reason for this is that JYPE made such a late announcement. If they have said this back in December, or even back in September, they might have recovered by now from the anticipated backlash.

    We can’t ignore the reality that Hottests will get mad. But JYPE should have the guts to say it a lot earlier.

    • I think I said it in the other article, sorry if I sound like a broken record lol. IF he did make that mistake, and if I was some in-the-know JYPE employee, I would be tired of having to deal with those angry fans for someone who not only put me through this exhausting incident once, but twice. So for the 2nd time I’ll just go “let’s just reveal the real reason, or fans will think we made him leave!”
      For example, a friend breaks an important vase but have reasons why he can’t own up, and you take up his blame in a way. Nobody’s going to be happy having all the screaming and blaming aimed at them, but imagine the frustration of not being able to say the truth, but having others criticize you.
      JYPE officials are human too; I would be mentally exhausted from attempting to clear up all this.

      • But don’t you think if they have dealt with this earlier it won’t be as much painful? It is stressful, but that’s their world. Dragging this too long just made it worse because they have to face everything all over again.

        I think the only way to appease the fans is to let Jay speak up.

      • It seems like an eternal hot potato – no matter when they deal with it, it’ll be hard for Hottests to accept. So I can’t really tell when is a better time for them to say it. I guess they might be waiting for a time when 2PM wasn’t promoting.
        As for the stress part, what I meant was that Jay’s issue was unprecedented (and definitely his own fault, even if he was younger) and involved many Koreans who have pride in their country. Afterward, they have to deal with fans who are upset over his leaving. And there was Sunmi’s leaving, and now Jay again. That’s quite a lot in such a time, I wonder how many meetings they had.

        Yes, it’s best to let Jay speak up. Then again, Hottests might say that he was forced by JYPE to recite a speech.

  49. lets say the fans are right and the members are against jyp’s manipulation, the fact that you don’t see them speaking about the real truth says that they don’t have the power to oppose.
    I mean what can they do? fight jyp and their career be frozen.

    The fans are being stupid, do you think the rest of 2pm members will sacrifice their career and fight jyp just to get jaebum back. Bear in mind they are still in their 2nd year as 2pm. The members don’t have the power.
    Sure they can talk but jyp will drop them like a hot potato.

    I don’t get what fans want to achieve in this. They can’t force the members to bare all the details cuz they are not allowed to. Its like a career suicide. And the fact that jaebum is staying quiet probably means he signed to stay quiet and i’m sure got paid for it.

    If fans don’t want to support, then don’t support. Just stop with the ” please tell us the truth” campaign.
    JYP will never talk about the details as well as the rest of the 2 pm members.

  50. Ammm…about the fancafe..it is not stable. May be some ppl do it just to boycott JYPE. THe number can increase after things are settle down.

  51. I’m speechless….I have nothing to say anymore…if JYPE is as bad as it is I woulnd’t want Jae to come back…

  52. don’t get carried out

    the scheduled meeting between 2PM members and fans still intact isn’t it? I think this will be the turning point, whether the 6 stayed as 2PM or disband or else.

    gosh, even from marketing point of view this is quite a crazy act from JYP Ent if this is just to gain public attention prior to 2PM future plan. the contract termination, though its a legal act, why is it happen now? I know JYP Ent released a news stating that they will comply to government regulation about talent contract but I just don’t get it. terminating a contract is not as easy as 1 2 3. the after effect can be very hazardous.

  53. some fans are naive, members said those things as ” fan service” its expected, they are idols.

    Do you really think the members have the power to say anything about the truth?
    Even jaebum who is miles way can’t say anything, what more with the rest of the members who are under the watchful eyes of jyp ent??

    just think about it, up to now jaebum is not saying anything, you know why?? cuz he got paid to stay quiet. Esp now with the contract termination, i’m sure jaebum singed a waiver to stay quiet and to let jyp handle everything.

    Fans are blinded sometimes, we are talking about idols here! Everything is decided by the company.

    • You’re probably right.
      Frankly, I think Jae moved on a long time ago, and although as hard as that sounds, it’s about time every one else does too. For real.

      • Thank you! I wholeheartedly agree! Move on people. Sorry to say this but He’s not gonna come back and no amount of protest or finger pointing will change that.

  54. I don’t wanna believe this.
    I want leadja to speak up for himself!
    What the fu*k is happening now T_T

  55. close relationships between members is one of 2PM2AM marketing strategy to attract fans

    money can buy everything

  56. “The company knew that the boycotting by fans will effect the income of the company and are throwing him away.”
    this doesn’t make much sense either.

    but i totally understand why fans are behaving this way, the statement they give out is too vague and too sudden, they’ve been telling ppl that they’re preparing for his comeback and now BAM! he’s not coming back anymore…*sigh*

  57. I think the main reason why the fans are upset is that from start JYPE were not being straight and honest with the fans or the public if from the start they told the fans that Jae is not coming back none of that would have happened but thing is they played and a lied to everyone for months I’m not even a hottest but Im so upset and sad with news I dont envy any hottest right now
    btw now it went down to 282,323

  58. I think people should be careful with this. One should remember that they are only outsiders, who do not know the full details. JYPE can only be releasing certain details, but not the full. Which is why it’s like a puzzle. You only have a few pieces, and when you put them together, it looks incomplete. But that’s because there are pieces that are missing and hidden.

    As fans and outsiders, we only have a limited information on this. Sometimes it seems like it will make no sense at all, but before people start making war… let’s be careful that it just doesn’t complicate matters ^__^

      • I agree with you Biscuit.

        What bothers me is that 2PM’s fan cafe, went down in member’s numbers. I can’t believe that the fans just dropped out, just because Jay isn’t coming back. ._.

        That would hurt the other boys.

      • I can’t believe the numbers went up when Jay was withdrawn from the group.

    • Right, we can’t blame so easily someone in this case but I feel that the way they deal with this matter is… strange and very bad? They can’t expect a reaction worse than this from the Hottests who had supported the remaining members of 2PM since the incident. Jaebum must have done a terrible thing…

      • did the Hottests really support the rest of 2pm after Jay’s withdrawal??

        sorry, but as someone who is neither a fan not an anti, just a neutral, the 45000 & counting number of Hottests are fans of only Jay, not the rest of the boys.

  59. wow….this just complicates matters. in JYPE’s statement they said that the other members feel they can’t promote with Jay anymore, which i find it hard to believe. seeing that the members have recently talked about Jay, this makes JYPE’s statement seem even more fishy. hmmmm

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