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TaecYeon and WooYoung on SBS Inkigayo, fans: “fake smiles” vs “do you expect them to put up a sour face”

Amidst the loud cries of unhappiness from fans with member leader JaeBum’s permanent succession from the team and also termination of contract with JYP Entertainment, 2PM WooYoung and TaecYeon appeared as MCs for SBS Inkigayo as usual.

They had appeared as the hosts on SBS Inkigayo aired on 28th February as usual. There has been requests from fans for the group to put their shows and TV programs on hold amidst such this case, but it seems that their show appearances will continue as usual.

What was even eye catching were the joking and bright features of the 2 members on the show, they were seen commented on Super Junior Kim HeeChul, “Has he become prettier?”.


Fans who were watching the show commented on the show’s discussion board, “I’m disappointed to see that they are able to go on shows and smile again right after JaeBum’s permanent succession when all this while, they seemed like they were having a hard time as a group”, “I’m shocked that they were faking their smiles”, “I’m speechless” etc.

However there were also fans who commented, “Do you expect them to put up a sour face as entertainers appearing on the show?’, “I’m really puzzled by the other 2PM members get all the criticisms to. This is too much?” etc.

Meanwhile, JYP Entertainment released an announcement on 25th February announcing JaeBum’s permanent succession from the team and also contract termination with the company. And on 27th February, the remaining 6 members of 2PM also had a conference with fans.

S: mydaily

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181 Responses

  1. ok lol people DO realize they knew about Jay’s permanent secession long before we did right? and that’s coming from someone that’s on jay’s side….

  2. come on it’s not like as if the few thousands of fans liked 2pm for the sake of jay. just because of third incidents almost everyone blamed the members for that. it wasn’t completely their fault. during the conference they were annoyed by the questions asked by fans already. furthermore in the future if the fans have no choice but to love 2pm back, do you think they’ll treasure those fans whom once scolded, blamed, posted their past pictures, and hated them?

  3. well
    im one of the i-HOTTESTS
    but i i think they’re dumb…
    we were able to know 2pm is because of k-HOTTESTS..lets think it through if 2pm is not popular in their country, we WONT EVEN BOTHER to check them out…so let the k-HOTTESTS do what they want…
    they seriously know whats happening in korea..
    we i-HOTTESTS may have keeping up with the 2pm update only throught the net…while they’re livin with korean tv, radios, post, webs so even if u know how to speak korean that doesnt mean u know 2pm like the k-HOTTESTS…
    there are diff bet i-HOTTESTS & k-HOTTESTS

    as conclusion LOVE & RESPECT for all

  4. It’s amusing to see how blind some fans are. Just like how they say love makes you blind, fandom makes you blind as well. GROW UP. Your life doesn’t revolve around celebrities unless you’re the paparazzi.

    What these boys have done, if it’s true or false, is just what others around you have done. kHottests say we iHottests don’t know anything, it’s true, but some of us here can speak Korean so of course we know what’s going on. While you all get details quickly, some of us have to wait long agonizing hours just for someone reliable to translate it for us. I’ve ordered so many Kpop things that plus shipping, sometimes I wonder if it’s even worth it. While you khottests can get it straight away and I have to wait weeks just go get it.

    It’s amusing how ONE SOLE person can destroy a group. Yep, THERE I said it. I’m not putting the blame on Jay, but because of him, this happened. Hottests are so blind to see that Jay is not the only one who worked hard for 2PM, each and every single member worked hard for 2PM.

    Some Hottests need to get off of 2PM AND JYP’s asses, meaning shut the hell up and fucking grow up.
    Because of fans/netizens, they pull me further and further away from Kpop not only for their remarks, but for all the hurt they cause. I hope the boys overcome these difficulties.

    And here comes the bashings :D

  5. It’s called the entertainment industry. there are always lies and secrets. Backstabbing and betrayal. so you guys should get over it. The world is dirty like that and you live it. In order to survive, you would do anything and if you don’t oh well. I agree 2pm won’t be the say anymore without Jay b/c Jay was like their pillar. But they could make up for what Jay did for the group even though they won’t be good as him. Even though Woo and Junho can’t sing like him, they are working on their singing. And ChanSung is trying SO HARD to work on his rapping and singing. I feel bad for Taec who has to rip off his shirt and be the body of the group b/c truthfully I prefer Jay’s better. But Taec is trying to work in to fill Jay’s role as a joker and the group’s speaker. Khun and Junsu are the oldest and as their role, they have to watch out for the younger members. But because of them trying to start all over again since Jay left and working hard is the reason why I still support them. It’s true I don’t like them as much as before, but watching them since hot blood days till now, we fans has seen all the trouble they went through. These boys felt betrayal too from the company, fans and even Jay. Truthfully, everyone is at fault.

  6. 2PM is better without the fag leader anyway.

  7. I feel sorry for the 2pm guys, they probably have the WORST fans ever.

    • can’t agree more!!!

      HOTTESTS showing their true colours already…They support only because they worship that one particular member from the group… And im pretty sure the ones unhappy about TaecYeong and WooYoung smiling are Jay’s avid fans.

      United they stand, divided they fall. Hottests are at the brink of the latter.

  8. I read this on soompi makes it sad to know what i believed in was all lies

    QUOTE (michpark7 @ Feb 28 2010, 03:11 PM) *
    New Msg frm AOM Chacha:

    “Thanks guys.We’re all the same family and same crew, so helping each other with music endeavors is in my best interest. I wouldn’t let my brother down . He needs and wants to make music, so I rather help him for free than other people trying to charge him for money to make future songs. It’s all love in the end and sharing what we love to do with others.”
    Well Im glad thru this Jay realized who his real brothers
    are…

  9. Work is work, boys know that very well.

  10. well.. u can’t really expect them to put on a strike and not smile at their shows.. may be they didn’t want to host but once they had to (be it for company or their contract) they can’t ruin it… after all they are entertainers.. right?

    Jay not coming back.. as much as I liked seeing him I think it is good.. how will he come back? Everything is fine, lets have fun … can he say that after all that happened? It is awkward.. think about him, his pride…

  11. How can anybody be fans of 2pm after what they said ==”

    just goes to show are idol groups really as close as they say they are?

    They pretend to be best of friends but deep down, they only care for themselves and their reputation

  12. LOL.

    Even if these Hottests leave 2pm, they still gain fans, not everyone is gonna believe all the crap that is being thrown around by angry used to be 2pm fans.

    I dont understand why so many people are sooo emotionally attached, I mean yeah I would get to hurt if something like that happen, but I mean really?

    I’m still a fan of 2pm, and I will support them. Yeah, I may go down a blind path, right? not accepting the fact that “they suck”. lol.

    PLease, to each his own, if your not a fan once again, WHY THE HELL DO YOU COMMENT?

    Go anti you say?

    ANTI FANS ARE STILL FANS.LOL

    You do the same us fans do except you bash, if your not a fan, ignore, why is that so damn hard for most, it amazes me.

    Nobody, not even the fans, have the right to criticize any of 2pm members, do you know them personally?

    I mean, some may have sources, but do you know the 6 face to face, name by name?

    why so quick to believe everything damn thing, why so quick to follow the damn pack.

    leave these 6 boys alone. and move the freak on, you have a life right?

    these things happen, forget about it and MOVE on.

    Goodness. LOL

    Go Ahead bash, scream, yell, witchhunt, just makes it more funny to see how pathetic people will be for people they dont even know personally.

    I’m ready for it….LOL

  13. Heechul!!! Keeps getting better with age!!!

  14. 7 – 1 = 6

  15. Too bad, if they had frown or something, they would have received PITY, at the very least. They will only receive more hate with every smile. But it’s their job, they have to smile. Tough life.

    Ok Taecyeon, your days are numbers. I see more hate post for Taecyeon than anyone else in 6PM around fancafe. Your Anti are extremists too. Don’t get poison.
    Junho, you’ll never going to get the popularity season. Your biggest fancafe shut down with a page laced with expletives direct at you.
    Chansung: Korean fans hate you to the core now. You should have shut up during the conference instead of calling Jay a thief.
    Junsu: Too bad, maybe you should have been in 2AM. I see hate posts for you too.

    Khunnie :) You’re still an angel. Good thing you didn’t talk much.

    6PM need a miracle.

  16. HaHaHaHa!!! They’re SMILING!!!!!

    They’re SMILING because NO MORE JaeBUM!!!

    They are so HAPPY because No JaeBUM!!!!
    HaHaHa!!!! And the 2PM Fans are MAD!!!!

    HaHaHa!!!! HaHaHa!!!! HaHaHa!!!! HaHaHa!!!!

    JaeBUM got kicked out of 2PM!!! Good for Him!!!!

    HaHaHa!!!! HaHaHa!!!! HaHaHa!!!! HaHaHa!!!!

    HOTTEST and COLDNESS FANS deserve this!!!!

    No More JaeBUM!!! No More JaeBUM!!!

    ONLY 6. NO MORE 7. NO MORE 7. ONLY 6.

    JaeBUM will NEVER come back! NEVER EVER!!!!

    And 2PM members are HAPPY cuz JaeBUM gone!!!

    6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6

    HaHaHaHa!!! HaHaHaHa!!! HaHaHaHa!!! HaHa!!!

    • Yes, they are happy. And we are happy. You are because Jay’s gone.

      And I’m happy ’cause you just proved yourself to be a lunatic.

      Everything will come round to bite 6PM in their butts, just wait.

      COLDEST!!

      • yeah, uhhm “6PM” did nothing wrong :] FYI
        i know you guys miss Jay, i DID too but im over him.
        and people like you should just forget about this whole
        controversy, and Jay.

        sorry to break it to you the hard way,
        but 2PM is not just about Jay, everyone in 2PM
        worked their butts off to be in this group.
        they DO NOT deserve fans like you, so don’t hate ’6PM’.
        and go stalk your little Jay in America. kayy, thanks

        watch this to get it through your think heads.

    • Buddy there’s something really wrong with you.

  17. 2PM talent level just went wayyyyy down without Jay…just saying now their stuck with Chansung, Taec and Nichkhun those guys can’t sing for shit nor rap…they try to make up for it showing off their bodies or looks…it can only get you so far

  18. I don’t care about 2PM

  19. wow. 0.o

  20. just came across this website…

    [ENG] Taecyeon and Nichkhun on Jay’s myspace controversy (2PM/Hottest fan meeting, 100227)

    link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok1ZvnjuMRw

  21. Wow this is really getting old. Just get over it. It’s that simple. These fans act like the other 2PM members just lost a family member and are acting like nothing. Yeah, I get that Jay was close to them and all that but appearently what he did made them unhappy. And it’s truly effecting THEM, not any of the fans. The fans just like to believe they have more of a connection with 2PM than they really do. And go ahead and flame me but what I’m saying is true. These “fans” have no right to criticize any of the 2PM members.

  22. its true Hottest should grow up,i dont understand why they expect the members to be sad in a broadcast show,their artist, even when they hurt they still have to put on a smile and move on,thats life,and bet u jay wishes them the best since their still friends, Jay is happy now doing what he loves most which is B-boy thats his passion. and some fans dont understand that they r making it worst by not leaving the issue alone, No matter what i will continue to be their Fan, I love their music,style,and humour, 2pm rocks!! U.S fans support u!! keep fighting those rude fans=)

  23. as ChanSung would say: What do you expect? Should we make a mess during live programs?

  24. honestly, it was kinda awkward for them to host immediately after everything that has happened. i hoped JYPE gave them at least 2 weeks “alone-time” to compose themselves and gather strength.

    both guys showed professionalism… YES! but the timing is really AWKWARD…

    let’s all wish something good happens in the next few days…

  25. let’s support 2PM no matter what… that’s the real heart of a fan…

  26. i just feel sorry for who ever going to be the new leader
    cuz he need to be strong and prepare to get bash by Hottests

  27. I’m just a casual fan, but this is really sad too see. I don’t see how Hottests can ever become united again.

  28. Funny, I always thought performing your job despite personal problems was called “professionalism” and generally thought well of in other parts of the world.

    • that’s what I thought of it, “professionalism” which I’m afraid is lost in the murky depth of over zealousness and blind adulation which is leading to biting remarks , wrongful accusations and twisted facts.

      Well no pain no gain, with what the 6 are exhibiting, trying to be professionals and seriously focusing on their job I think in the end everything will work out for them. There are still a lot of fans who support them, and there will always be new fans.

  29. this is the least of their worries with atleast 3 pics going around of the 2pm members not acting so nice. one pic with the thai chick and junsu.another pic a 2pm drinking at the age of 16. another pic 2pm members around like 3 girls sitting down with their arms around them.

  30. ummmm… i know you guys are all upset of the fact that jaebum jay park will not be in 2PM anymore but the fact that these 6 remaining guys that are trying to keeping going is strong will power in their part. they are hurting inside as well but to keep you guys (as in us the fans) strong as in that they are okay. but by putting these discriminating pictures and bashing them because of this issue of jaebum jay park, is going way to far out of hand. in my opinion if jaebum jay park made this decision on his own then i would believe. he must have a reason behind it and for us, fans, to know it too extreme so he kept it a secret. that’s his personal life that we, the fans, don’t need to know about. our job as the fans to do now is to support the remaining 6 members in 2PM and help them hold on. you guys can’t keep this up by bashing one press after another and then blaming jyp. so in my overall opinion is to let go of the situation at hand since its done with. i hate to say that fact but if you guys leave them alone, the “wound of this broken heart” will be restored piece by piece if we help 2PM out. so please just let them be.
    2PM fighting ~ !

    • i understand what you have to say but stupid jungwook said the fans did not protect jay! so the hottest are pissed! those idiots know shit and say we did not protect them? if they did not, those pix would be all over the net long ago. why wait till now.

      • Note to self: No one came to Jay’s defense six months ago. Facts are facts.

        And now you are going to get pissed?

        PS: Those pictures prove nothing other than the fact that they are young men. Hardly hurtful.

      • jay=pussy

  31. i thought they are not appearing this week? i would rather JYPE to give them more rest from the public eye. they can always MC next week. oh well life goes on anyway

  32. Hi guys,
    I read some comments and just wanted to say something:
    I think some fans have to much freetime.
    It’s just a small problem, but still some many fans make it a big one and worry about it.
    There are greater problems in your lifes than Park Jaebom to worry about.

    • Well, maybe u cannot blame them, reading thru the comments, one can see that the commenters are still young , impulsive, idealistic who’s world revolve around entertainment, idols, with lots of free time to dig even the most hidden secret there is about their idols who they want to put on a pedestal or entertainers they want to bash. But I keep on wondering though, how come no one has gone the length of getting the factual info from jay himself with regards to this present controversy? I think that’s the most sensible thing to do given that a lot of people are questioning the 6 on their true feelings and actions

  33. guys, u cant hate them just because they are not 7 anymore. its obvious that JYPE has a bigger plan with all this thing, but they have to agree with the company, be nice to your idols, they are in pain right now …

    • this is why JYPE is doing this shit. to play on fans like you with a heart to magnanimous.

      • JYPE took Hyuna from WG… Then Jaebum from 2pm… So Sunmi from WG.. I doubt he let Sunmi return either, he will use an excuse again to break yet another heart.

      • JYPE isnt doing anything. THE FANS are doing it to themselves.

        THE FANS/NETIZENS make up the rumors, the fans want to see subliminal messages in everything – even a sign for a morning radio show in Vancouver at the Olympics. The NETIZENS started this mess and then blame JYPE for what? Telling the truth? JYPE has THE MOST to lose…why would they make this stuff up?

        WHERE IS THE LOGIC in your statement?

      • look how HyunAh is very succesful with 4minute

  34. It’s just a boy band, get a grip people! Chill out!! Honestly I am so amused by the fans reaction. Suddenly everyone’s talking like they actually know these boys and what’s in their mind. I should go and get some popcorn before it gets more interesting.

  35. I would jus say, I believe in the nature of human…

    It’s irony that ppl says “I don’t even know them anymore”, have u really know them? Do u actually know wat’s in their mind the moment they speak out? U read minds? U can listen to wat their heart whispered?

    If 4 hours can make u judge and set ur mind of wat kind of person they are, then wat about the 1 year plus time u’ve been following them(that is if u did follow them from the beginning)?

    I don’t even know why these boys get all the blames in the 1st place, but I guess this applied with same theory like on a battle field: the subordinates risk their life fighting at the battlefront, receiving all kind of attacks, while the mastermind stays at the back, shielded from the 1st hand damage….

    Hope the boys stay strong…

    • You said it right.

    • I agree to that. Nice way to put it. the conference is the battlefield. Funny how the fans said they are rude when it was the fans attacking them with harsh questions and blaming them at the same time. It makes sense that they cringe and have those fierce expression. People tend to forget that they are male species. Them sitting there getting all the insults and rude snide and belittling them, impressed me somehow. They held back their anger and their ego and replied them. If it’s me i probably burst out of anger.

      Oh well, i’ll wait for few more days when people started to think back everything. there are more to life than this…

  36. Well, Woo’s smile looked forced.
    It must be awkward for them.
    N with other singers know about this issue.
    i wonder how they’ll feel.
    Maybe they’ll talk about this off-screen with others??
    I hope they won’t say anything bad about Jay or better don’t talk about it at all.

  37. i’m excited to see how far this will go….

  38. These comments…i doubt they read the fan accounts…or even keep up and follow through closely with the whole affair…
    Fake fans…and i mean those that keep claiming that “2PM isn’t made up of just Jay!” or even “I like them for their music not their faces, personalities or body!”…
    Who are you kidding??? I bet all you know is whatever Allkpop shoves to you!

  39. well, a fake smile is better than a sour face.

  40. even tho, i’m sure the members can make it themselves. please have faith in yourselves :( continue to work hard :(

  41. People! 2PM is not only Jeabom 2PM can’t be found by 1 person I think 2PM without him is the same I will support 2PM and JYP if they still be able to make good songs for me to listen Please stop bashing other members!

  42. I’m sick of 2PM/6PM. I’m going to find another kpop act to obsess over.

    • Go find your self another band !!!!!!!!

      If you can’tsupport them don’t watch their clips or videos !!!!!!! I am sure thet all this mess just made them stronger and all those who love 2PM become stronger too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • lol I stop watching their videos ever since I found out the truth. To think Jay is not even my bias. Taec is my bias but I just feel so disgusted by his fake self and inflated ego. Sorry 6PM will not become any stronger without Jay. They are totally screwed up NOW. I can’t wait to see their downfall…..

      • no it makes those who support 2pm after this look more like an idiot. following the blind.

      • yes.. 2PM will make it

  43. is it true that the members hate jay?

  44. i dont know,but i just wish they take a break for a moment b4 continue their activity….i mean at least they should know that fans is hurt….
    they try to be professional i know…but not after the heart breaking fan meeting….(in my eyes,it’s heart breaking one)
    just take a little break,not just continue like nothing happen…i think that’s the thing that make me sad the most…. :(

  45. although the guys might be mean during the conference. it might be because they were angry at jay? Because of him, they got criticized and everything.. It wasn’t really their fault. Stop blaming them :(

  46. the fans should just face the reality. Whats done cannot be undone, furthermore, jay did something bad yeah?

  47. sigh even though they’ve lost quite a number of fans, not to worry they still have many other fans around the world :) the fans shouldn’t blame the members in the first place. :( i feel sad for them..

  48. This is just really messed up and very sad =/
    Please don’t blame 2PM, from what I have read and heard they have done nothing wrong. I’m not saying everyone should continue supporting them now that Jay is gone, but there is no need to hate 2PM or any of their members. I think that is very harsh since they are hurting if not more then the fans. It’s not exactly easy for them to go on shows and act professionally after what has happened. If anything its quite courageous instead of hiding away for a few months

    • But we aren’t supporting them because they aren’t the 2pm we used to know.. What happened during their Hot blood boys?? When they was asked to choose 1 person left out to not eat, they all decided to stay together all not eating..

      And now they goes on tramping all over Jay? Calling his social life dirty? Asks to not see his face on dance videos anymore..?

      Taec has gone to arrogance, does he think he can takes Jay place by ripping and acting all that to fans?? Just because he gotten much in the spotlight lately?? wtf..

      I’m only positiv about Nichkhun baby<3 I heard he is the only one who actually cares for Jay, and at least he didn't badmouth Jay at the press conferance..

  49. what the hell?! some fans are just simply stupid..im sorry but really…they make a big deal out of everything!!! O_o

  50. for them to be able to put up a smile is what i call PROFESSINONAL…
    they sure are sad over the Jaebom

  51. I was thinking that i will support 2pm in future without Jay.But when i heard about the conference…i am not supporting them anymore

  52. Life must go on, show must go on.
    We can’t please everyone, just do the best for our own sake.
    Nobody loves you more than yourself.
    All 7 boys, keep strong, and let all of these become your lesson. 10 years from now, you’ll be able to see this again, and laugh “we were young, we were stupid, but we learned it, hard. ”

    Fans or antis, we can’t please all their wishes. Nobody will ever satisfied with any kind of outcome from this matter.
    Be happy and work harder are the best thing they can do.

  53. well, they looked pretty sad back when they resumed their MC activities when jay had left.. so i guess maybe fans and viewers expected some sad and not so smiley faces .. but blehh..

  54. i just thought about this.

    fans before were pleading jype for an open ended talk about the jaebum situation. now that jype has held the conference many fans were asking for, THOSE same fans are pissed.

    is there never ever any peace? demands, demands, demands. even blackmail with unearthly photos from 2pm’s past? jeez. the public is really asking for it. theyre neverrrr satisfied. i dont care who you are, and how big of a fan you were of them, these ongoing actions are hurtful to these people, NOT idols. thinking about 2pm as people, do you know how much of an impact youre leaving on their not even fulfilled life yet? theyre what? in their young 20′s and are having to deal with the MOST, THE MOST dumbest fandom outcry ever.

    as for the article, its their job to MC. obligations they must fulfill. hear of responsibility?

    … and yet haiti and chile are suffering from massive devastation and fans of 2pm are pushing for 2pm to end…

  55. Even though they are smiling..but then their eyes are not..our eyes tell everything…i dont even know what to do now…im so confuse…huhu

  56. Are you kinding me? what kind of true fan? What kind of support? Their image just broke at that conference! thay just let jay appart è___é Of course fans don’t want to see them smile! the hottest aren’t smiling right now! I totaly understand what the fan mean, especially the Khottest! they tried so hard to bring Jay back to let 2pm continue.

    People are talking about true fan? There’s not true fan since there’s not 2pm anymore. If one member of a family is missing… the family will never be the same.
    We don’t now what’s absolutely true in their story. but until we now, (… right now I’m even ready to think that jay would have done some terrible thing as a “mistake” It’s the only way for me to like the guys again…but THEY HAVE TO TALK) I definitely can’t see the 2pm guys as I use to see them è______é I’m so upset about them right now I feel betrayed I don’t even want to see their face. If they don’t talk about Jay… It’s the end of the 2pm.

    6 members? don’t joke aroud!! è__é

  57. they would be blamed for being unprofessional because they are doing their job,duties – MCing
    Do you expect them to cry on the show?

    • No we don’t expect anything, cause now we all know what good actors 6pm are.. No wonder we never figured out something was wrong during January, cause they just keeps on smiling and mention Jaebum’s name in the media.. Even though they decides to kick him out, because of some mistakes…

      OooOOoooOoo… I doubt he killed someone.. Can’t forgive?? That’s harsh.. That’s why we can’t forgive them either…

      All expect for Khun who has tried to protect Jae.

      • so childish

      • i think you have the story all WRONG.
        it’s been like 5 months now, that he’s gone.
        can’t anyone of you fans just FORGET about JAY?!
        think of his perspective, he’s probably NOT coming back because
        he doesn’t want stuff like this to happen again.

        and Jay is kind of the bad guy too,
        do you see him saving 2PM from you crazy obsessed jay fans like you?

        seriously, the rest have come this far and worked their BUTTS OFF TO BE IN 2PM.
        if you guys weren’t so picky and chose a certain person to like,
        you’d just forget about Jay, and let him have his own live.
        why can’t you like the band as a whole, and not a certain member?

  58. They shouldn’t have appeared at all on the show today!! It’s so messed up!!

    • Why should they have not appeared on the show? They have known about Jay leaving for SEVEN WEEKS. I don’t want to ruin it for you but they still have a life and career to move on with.

    • your messed up for saying that.
      they have their lives to take care of too.
      it’s been 5 months get over Jay, period.

  59. I go with “do you expect them to put up a sour face”… I think some fans want them to go sobbing on Inkigayo begging Jay to return.
    If they were sobbing on air, people say they’re unprofessional and if they don’t, people say they’re fake. Humans are hard to please as usual…

    • Sometimes I pity these celebrities, specially the six 2pm members, bec. they are in this damn if you do damn if you don’t situation. Fans can really be really unreasonable sometimes, maybe bec. they are blinded by their so called love and devotion to certain individuals that all else does not matter irregardless of it’s truthfulness, sincerity and common sense.

  60. These people aren’t hottest, they’re jayest. lol

    They’re doing their jobs, give them a break.

    Maybe those jayest people should do their jobs and live their normal lifes too beside finding false of others.

    They will never please these people no matter what.

    2PM guys, just talk about jay mistake and show these dumbasses jayest their GOD’s mistake. LMAO

  61. im not at both sides
    give them a break jyp
    this is torturing and thinking of the issue now just give them a break its enough

  62. give them a break.
    all they can do is smile right now – so everyone should support them with the utmost respect.

    • why don’t they take a break first
      after that conference they need to know that their fans is angry at them
      but they still MC-ing, i know they’re pro, not showing their self on public but still
      I think Khottest need time to accept their behave
      and I think a day before conference JYPE already said that T&W will take a break but everything bcome different after conference

    • GOOD! finally. depending on translation is so frustrating. actually i don’t know whether the post is true. but i believe it. sometimes we must really hear it for ourselves before we can judge. when everyone’s already so pissed, who can we count on for a reliable translation? its human nature to twist and turn a little which in turn causes everything to change.

      the best part is that i have seen so much people reblog that but not any of the so called ‘ex-hottest’ arguing there. why? is it because you guys think that its true? is there guilt in exclaiming facts that did not exist? then what about explaining what those rude fans are about? i know that definitely someone would push and say that’s not our people. then whose is it? anti-fans at a 2PM press conference??

      and lastly, every job has to show professionalism. and i think this boys just their part in doing their job mc-ing. don’t forget that they are on contract. should they be flamed again if they don’t attend for be unprofessional? ex-fans, and anti-fans alike. if you guys don’t like them anymore, then stop commenting and shooting nonsense. remember the days when you are still a fan and anti-fans start flaming your idols? now its the same back to all you ex-fans. stop your rubbish.

    • PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS TRANSLATION! it corrects a lot of the mistranslations by Hottests. kHottests have taken the boys words and twisted it themselves out of anger.

    • idk about this… there’s a lot out fan accounts going around and they sound the same, not to mention my friend basically didn’t say the same stuff the person mentioned in that post.. but instead she repeated most of what the fan account’s were about.. so idk D: it’s one translation vs several others, that repeat the same thing.

    • @carinchuuu
      That’s so true….I mean it’s hard to believe anything right now.
      But especially 1 article that goes against everything MANY other accounts have said. Ya never know though….
      : |

  63. The show must go on, right? But man, days ahead are just going to get even tougher for the guys. If anything, I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes. =\

  64. i’ll be with them till i die
    no matter how many members remained,they are still 2PM that i love.
    p/s:nonsense pics floating on net.argghh.

  65. the people who keep saying that one side are the “true fans” and one side is not are the ones who need some growing up. obviously in something like this that is so huge fans will take sides. if you’ve been observing the controversy for so long, reading accounts of both sides, comparing and everything you will learn that those, myself included who decide to leave the fandom are just acting because of what has happened. we love our idols but… sigh i’m too tired to explain. just want to say that before you guys judge us, learn about the whole thing first, read every account you can see, judge from what you believe in, your values. sigh.

    • and heck no!!! we are not being like this because Jay left the group. what kinda reason is that! I kinda agree with 1.59? NAH. We have definitely thought about this so much, cried upon it and we have reached these decisions. KNOW what’s happening first, I don’t even know if you’ve even heard/read what happened in the conference!

  66. they did look kind of awkward and fake but I don’t blame them.

    but the show must go on.

  67. Seriously man..Hottest should give 2pm a break . I mean .. just bcs Jay is not there,2pm is still 2pm regardless of wat happen.Did they love n support 2pm only bcos of Jay?With or w/o jay , i will always support 2pm ^^ And i really pity the rest of the members cs the fans are just giving them a hard time so just give them a break.

    • 2pm isn’t the 2pm we know anymore.. They are monsters for abandoning the one who left for their sakes!! They abandoned the one who made their fame rise after Jae incident..

      1 person could save 6, then why the hell can’t 6 save the one??

      It’s a joke..

      And the 2pm I know about isn’t false, and the 2pm I know treasures friendship and brotherhood more than anything else.. It’s not them.. anymore….

      I don’t know who these guys are…

      • These guys are persons with feeling and emotion just like you or me. And as far as I know jay left bec. of the myspace incident he himself created. He did not leave the six bec.he wants them to grow into a successful group. He made a mistake that’s why. And I don’t think that his misdeed must force the other six to leave the group in support of him, as they also work hard to be in that group. or to act like a sad lunatic in front of the audience just to prove that they are still Jay’s brother and friend.
        And yes maybe it’s not them anymore, not the original happy go lucky guys. But think first what made or turn them into the horrible person (as other insinuate or flatly state). Maybe it’s Jay himself or those who constantly barrage them with hate calls and accusation with no proven facts to back it up.
        well just another opinion, no malice intended.

  68. the fans need to leave them alone already..
    are they expecting to cry in the music show?
    Tae you are in bad luck.

  69. You fans who claim to be true fans of 2PM are ridiculous. DO YOU EVEN READ THE ARTICLES ON 20D? IF YOU READ THEM AND YOU COULD STILL SAY POSITIVE STUFF ABOUT TAEC AND THE REST YOU ARE INHUMAN. Do you even have the slightest idea on how they behaved and what they say during the fan conference? Its a perfect example of Betrayal and just plain ill mannered. I think you so called true fans of 2PM need to start by reading stuff at 20D before u call urselves true fans.

    • We like their music and we don’t care about their personnality.

      You were in love with their body ? With their ”Oh-so-charming” personnality ? So go away,since teh beginning you were not a fan of 2PM . A fan of the member of 2PM but not a fan of their music (because ,if you have forget 2PM is a band who sing)

      True fan = even if 2PM is just a group of bastard ,even if 2PM is arrogant ,we still support them = Because we don’t care about gossips .Their music are fresh and awesome .

      • agree.. Im sad that Jay is no longer part of 2pm but that doesnt stop me from liking 2pm. I love their stage presence regardless. Im glad that they appear at inkigayo. was worried about their presence on variety shows.

        I know most fans hating 2pm about their attitude during conference. but isnt that human? Isn’t that how they feel? the fans and public are pointing fingers at them, if it was me i would be pissed, i would want to stand up to what i believe in. I support them regardless.

        p.s. i love wooyoung’s hair :p

      • Yes, it’s their music that made me their fan. Well I guess there are different degrees of how one is a fan.
        Another thing, there are two side on a coin
        or better said: Newton’s third law: law of reciprocal actions =
        To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction. We may not know what truly transpired between them that would elicit such a reaction from Taec and the rest. But they are human with emotions and feelings.
        It’s just like how the fans are reacting to what they saw and hear from the conference, these boys have feeling also that were touched by what they learned, that they reacted in such a manner. No offense meant just my opinion

      • lol @ kpoplover and @yamlover. you love their music? they dont even produce their own music!!!! they just sing whatever they are given. might as well say you like their voice or you like the producers?! their personalities are goners. What they said @ the conference was rly mean. even if the answers were scripted or not, they could choose to protect jay. But they didnt! jay left so 6 wouldnt be in trouble. but now they are taking adv of jay and trampling all over him smearing his reputation. thats so ridiculous.

      • @ W, I’m sorry,but almost any idol group or singers in the kpop world just sing songs others wrote or produced. But that does not make them less of a singer. they are the ones singing the songs so I think they are ones I admire not the writers or the producer. As for their behavior, as I’ve stated before action begets action. Like me reacting to your comment (no malice intended), the six to my opinion just reacted to something that they deemed they needed to react to. It’s just human nature at work.
        And didn’t Jay leave bec of the myspace thing to which almost all Koreans reacted against him. He left bec. if not, he will pull the group down with the way things are getting back in sept.
        Just my opinion, no harm meant

      • That’s why kpop is not the same anymore because people don’t like the music, but the idols themselves. I will still listen to 2pm or 6pm because the music JYPE produce for them. Most singers in korea don’t even write or produce their own music or their company just buys it off somewhere. Atleast JYP produces his own music.

    • Note to self : YOU WEREN’T THERE EITHER. Read this and listen to the audio clip as you fall off your high horse.

      http://fortyninepointfivebananas.tumblr.com/post/416760244/on-the-rumors-about-the-fan-meeting-updated-see-extra

  70. man thanks for all the positive comments!!! we should still support them. seriously, i agree fans need to grow up!! & on allkpop.com with those photos. what kinda fans are those! im so glad to see support for 2pm. i know im still supporting them!

    • Totally second you on your comment. Will support 2PM with or without Jay. I am still bummed out about the news on Jay not coming back but it doesn’t stop me from supporting the remaining members.

    • You regret one day for supporting them.. Their true nature has all been shown over yesterdays conference.. I was so disgusted reading what Taec and Chan said about Park Jaebum.. Of course not Jaebum hyung… -___-

      • You’re disgusted reading it? I felt disgusted hearing their tone during the conference.

      • YOU WOULD REGRET NOT SUPPORTING THEM. people like you aren’t even fans. were you at the conference? i’m PRETTY damn sure you weren’t so STFU cause you don’t even know what went on! people like you are to be blamed for this situation. making it worst than it really is. go get a life!

    • like i’ve been saying in any article about 2pm, im still supporting them with or without Jay…i know Jay will be happy seeing hottest supporting his boys… :)

  71. C’mon guys did you only love 2pm because of Jay??
    Support the other members ! I love 2pm without or with Jay …Love their music!

    • yes. only jay!

    • YES. JAY IS THE BODY, FACE, LEADER AND BREAKDANCER OF 2PM!

    • I agree, there are 7 members on the group. I sympathize with what Jay is going through right now. But one must also try to understand what the other six are feeling, with pressure coming from all sides.They cannot mix professional activities with private and more personal side. One should put everything on it’s proper perspective and set aside personal emotions when the necessity arises. The shows format is song and dance, and it’s the job of emcees to liven it up.
      And as I see that majority of the fans are of a much younger age ,some may show rather harsh reaction to the problem at hand, but given time and unbiased information, these flurry of emotions will eventually subside and the problem taken point by point objectively.

      These boys including Jay have been through a lot to get to where they are right now, so I truly hope that everything will turn out fine in the end. And, a lot of fans may leave their side right now, but new fans may discover their talents, give them the support they need and stay by their side.

      sorry for the long post, this is just my opinion, I have no intention to offend anyone. If I did offend anybody please accept my apology. thanks

    • duh what you expect Jay was good in everything rapping, singing, dancing, b-boying and they just let him go. No offense 2PM already gets chewed on for their no singing abilities and when you let one of ur main singers go your talent level goes wayyy down. No offense this isn’t like fucking Chansung we’re all talking about…cuz we all know he can’t sing, can’t rap cant do any other shit but dance, same goes for most of the other members who think they can get by on their looks

    • This is why in my eyes 2PM=Jay.

      If he ever comes back into the Kpop scene
      I hope he goes solo cause that way fans can
      shut the fuck up about him. AND the other
      members can get some light. You’re not a
      true fan of a group if you only love 1 single
      freakin member.

  72. so, what do they want??
    they want taec n woo cry while MC-ing??
    they just did their job…
    iii still support them.

  73. I don’t know whether to believe how they’re acting right now.
    they should’ve stop their activities for a while cause continuing would just bring more criticism.

    7 – 1 = 0
    6PM – not going to happen.

  74. hottest need to grow up.

    • You people need to grow up and know whats going on before commenting us..

      • N u think u know better what’s going on? U guys who keep hating 2pm should face reality instead of assuming evrything is conspiracy, lies and stop acting like stupid brats breaking 2pm’s cd n take pictures of it. =__=”
        the fact is Jay has moved on, he’s happy where he is n u guys should move on too.

      • I just believe what I read from 2oneday.com the international forum that had always been with 2pm.. It’s no longer about Jay, I’m actually glad that he aren’t going back to them, after seeing how their attitude was to both fans and Jay..

        Right now the problem is just about 2pm.. What we know them as from hot blood days etc.. And the 2pm we saw yesterday, they were totally different. Like we been lied to all the time if you understand.

      • if you dont like 2PM anymore, why dont you just withdraw your being a fan of the group. you dont need to bash them.

      • Just so you know, that fortyfivepointnine banana’s guy only heard the audio.

        He or she thinks that he has a better view of the conference then the people who actually WENT and SAW the conference in their own eyes.

        Most of the people in the conference for Anti-boycott and all up for 6pm, but after the conference no good things came up.

    • “You backstab your leader, we backstab you.

      It’s not even the fact that Jay left because we all know there was a huge chance of that happening. It’s that some of the members trash talked him in public, said they hated him, said he had a “dirty personal life”. That’s not what friends do it each other. Do you really think the remaining HOTTESTS can just accept that and still love you the same? There’s going to be consequences for you actions, and the release of these photos is one of them. If you realize, 2PM, you had such a loyal fanbase that they made sure these pictures were never seen. Now look what you did.”

    • who cares about these two faggots anymore…

    • why are international fan, who know NOTHING, keep insulting Korean Hottest who are at the center of everything?
      YOU who can’t even read Daum or Naver make up stuff, spread it around English forums and insult Koreans people. We are the one who spend money on 6PM, buy most of their product, go to their performance, pay tickets to see them, buy 6PM gifts and food.

      Stop insulting us when you don’t know ANYTHING.

      • You’re right when you say that we’re international fans and yes SOME of us can’t read Daum or Naver, but have you never heard of translators? And do you realize that we too pay for 2PM goods (sometimes even extra for shipping), and if we’re lucky we get to see our favorite idols when they come to our countries. We can only dream of what it would be like to see them perform live.

        You guys have it so good and when we see you tear apart our idols with hurtful words(I blame korean netizens for Jay leaving), protests, and incremenating pictures of them, how do you think we’re suppose to react??

        Now not all Korean fans are like this i know, i’ve seen the cool flash mobs and the amazing fan gifts, but it seems to me that these so called korean “Hottests” just ruin everything for the rest of us.

      • Oh please…. Are you feeling superior because you are a kHottest?

        I agree with “thatsstupid”.

        You have the “life easy” comparing to us.
        You’re the one who know NOTHING about iHottests, absolutely nothing.

    • DON’T you dare single out hottests, because ANY other fan club would be doing the same exact thing.

  75. i really hope that most of the “fans” will realize their mistake still continue to support 2pm!

  76. i would suspect that going on a public television broadcast right after THAT event, is awkard.

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