How much were the earnings and net profits for Korea’s top 3 management companies – SM Entertainment, YG Entertainment, JYP Entertainment – in year 2009?
Managing the top idol groups in Korea, Lee SooMan (SM), Yang HyunSeok (YG) and Park JinYoung (JYP) are also the largest shareholders of the companies. And there have been great interests in the rivalry going on between these 3 entertainment giants amongst fans.
On the 12th, Financial Supervisory Service revealed the earnings of YG Entertainment for year 2009. YG recently reported their earnings on the 9th, so did the other 2 companies, through an electronic announcement system under the service.
Under sales, SM Ent (The only KOSDAQ listed out of the 3) is #1 with 61,788,490,000 KRW in sales. Increase from 43.7 billions KRW recorded in 2008
SM Ent manages some of the biggest idol groups in Korea including So Nyeo Shi dae, Super Junior, SHINee, Dong Bang Shin Ki, f(x) and BoA etc.
But in terms of increase from the previous year, YG Entertainment is #1 with 35,693,360,000 KRW in terms of earnings in 2009, up 92% from the record of 18.5 billions KRW in 2008. This is also the first time the company broke through 30billions KRW in earnings in 10 years since its establishment.
2009 has been a good year for YG En with Big Bang doing well with their concert, GDragon, DaeSung, SeungRi and TaeYang with their solo activities. 2009 was also the debut of their female group 2NE1 which had roped in earnings through their various albums and CFs released.
As for JYP, their earnings last year was 10,163,540,000KRW. There is a drop in 7% in terms of earnings but considering that WonderGirls has been inactive in Korea, this is good results. Idol group 2PM also played a decisive role in the company’s earnings last year with all the saga going on.
Under operating profits taking away sales costs and salaries:
- SM – 9,266,340,000 KRW
- YG – 7,390,890,000 KRW
- JYP – 230,000,000 KRW
Also, under net profit
- SM – 4,471,310,000 KRW
- YG – 4,162,260,000 KRW
- JYP – lose of 4,677,770,000 KRW
For JYP case, it was not the lose for the company and its artistes, but rather the lose was absorbed by the investors for WonderGirls’ American debut last year. So with that, the assessment of loss can only be attained based on the WonderGirls’ success in their legitimate American activities this year.
S: StarNews
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hurm i guess every company has it’s own agenda…
SM undoubtedly making a good business but how pity, i came across many articles saying how bad SM treat it’s artists. That’s a minus for SM . YG? Impressive. Their artists seem like enjoying their life preety good. At least i can tell that they make more money than super junior members are…capable to buy expensive outfits 😛 extra point for that! JYP? worthy?
well i appreciate good musics…all i wish for is more good musics from them…mostly i prefer musicians whose wrote,compose and produce their own musics like Epik high, G dragon(attracted to his hard work), Kim C, Brown Eye Soul…etc..so either SM,YG or JYP, as long as they produce good musics i’ll support any of them. be success people!
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we’re comparing fancafe numbers now? LOL wow
i think DBSK has the most collectively, then BB, then surprisingly it would be a battle between SNSD and Suju..
i guess i see where people are coming from when they say BB is real music and they are the only ones they respect or w.e
but sometimes the artists really have not that much say in what music they make (in other companies at least)
do you really think snsd wants to prance around going “oppa i love you” or do you think that fx or shinee enjoys going “do it do it chu” or “ring ding dong” (which doesn’t really make sense by itself)?
i agree that BB music if of great quality, but keep in mind that some other artists don’t really get that much say..
SM made a crap load of money in terms of operating profit
way ahead of any other company
once u look at net profit and see how SM and YG all of a sudden even out, that just tells you how much money sm has to cough up for other things as compared to YG
the gap between operating and net profit for SM is like 5,000,000,000 whereas for YG the gap was only 3,000,000,000
i see ppl comparing costumes and such.. but yea maybe BB or 2NE1’s costumes are somewhat expensive or well made… would it really balance out with a group with 12 performing members (suju minus kibum cuz he doesn’t perform) 5 or 4 expensive outfits as compared to 12 average/cheap ones… thats a large gap…
transportation… BB and 2NE1 can fit in 1 car respectively.. Suju needs like 3 or 4 cars alone, and SNSD needs two cars just by themselves
same goes with managers.. i can’t even count how many managers SM artists have (don’t even know why they have so many)
so i mean.. i see other people’s point when they say that with more groups the production cost might not always be that much higher, but i think for SM it definitely is considering the fact that they’re promoting one of korea’s largest groups (in terms of member numbers)
looking at JYP and how their success was hindered because of WG’s absence… that makes sense
yes 2pm has been trying to fill in the empty spot left behind, but they’re not their yet.. and the scandal truly hit them hard
but if we were to talk about WG’s absence because they were in the states… shouldn’t we also bring in BoA, who’s a money make for SM as well?
artists aside, i believe SM ventures into more branches of entertainment as compared to the other two companies as well…. (they like opened their own karaoke venue)
all this just adds to the cost to which SM needs to pay in order to successfully promote any of his artists
YG has his own nightclub and a few other side businesses as well so i don’t get where you’re coming from with that. and he also spent a huge amount for that new building so there’s more costs right there. not to mention three big YG concerts this year. GD’s Shine A Light solo concert, BIGBANG’s Big Show 2010 and BIGBANG’s Japanese Electric Love Tour. more costs there while SM only had SUJU’s Asia Super Show 2.
like BBTVXQLOVE said above, when you’re more popular you get things done cheaper just by influence alone. and SM has that. so SM is able to save a lot of money just by being SM and not doing anything else. he is also able to get more profit share from CFs and endorsements and things like that. because SM is popular, he is able to demand a bigger slice from the profit cake.
BoA is a shareholder in SM so she doesn’t count.
as for transportation, yes, SM probably needs more. but they save money in dorms instead cuz suju live in 2 dorms while BB have dorms in korea and japan. as for outfits, one set of costume for one BB member can easily cost triple of one suju member’s costume. and 5 times 3 is already 15 and that’s more than suju’s 12 members already. wherever YG spends more, SM gets discounts. wherever SM spends more, YG pays the regular price if not more for quality. SM gets things done cheaper while YG doesn’t cut corners and spends whatever amount it takes to get the best quality. so the cost for transportation, managers, dorms, and costumes and things like that, between YG and SM there isn’t really much of a gap.
SM has 4 active groups.
operating profits – net profits = 5bil KRW
YG has 2 active groups.
operating profits – net profits = 3bil KRW
so imagine if YG also has 4 active groups like SM. wouldn’t that be more cost than SM? see what i’m saying now?
whatever it is, YG did a really good job for doubling his earnings this year.
and good job to SM too for still being able to gain all that profit considering his artists are suing him for mistreatment and slavery. lol.
I found it weird how nobody feels sorry for the people investing into JYPE. They’re the ones who have lost the money, not JYPE. After this, it might be difficult to find investors, shares may be sold off. Agreed that artists such as 2PM and 2AM were working, along with 4Minute and Beast’s debuts, overall they made an enourmous loss. Marketing strategy may be what’s going on in America with WG but they’re back in S.Korea right? I doubt they’ll find sponsers this year.
SME has done good this year in terms of operating profit; they had DBSK, Suju, fx, SNSD and Shinee to bring in revenue, but being an long established company obviously they’d have a lower net profit when you pay the salaries of the employees, the costs for managing, dressing etc. Also due to the lawsuit against them, they lost quite a bit of money, some of their money makers have parted (DBSK) and then the new contracts had to be implemented.
YGE were awesome this year. Only BB and 2NE1. Their way of handling is good, they don’t overwork their artists and yet they are so popular. GD’s album and concert did extremely well, then there were the other solos and debut of 2NE1. YG knows how to hype up the market. Plus sponsers are big names and so they don’t really have to pay much for their expensive clothes. It’s strange…
Hm.. I wasn’t aiming to write this up. I want to make that amount of money, not contribute to it. <___<
Does it matter who make more money >< I am one of those people who contributed to that money that YG is making. I would rather be making that amount of money than contributing it haha.
i just realized that Lee Soo Man looks like MC MONG! rotflmao….i love his artists specifically DBSK, SHINEE, SNSD, and F(x) but not him and his company!
same to JYP…i love all his artist but not him and his company!
however, i have a different thought on YG! i love Mr.YG though i have greater love for his artists! lol…BIGBANG, SE7EN, & 2ne1! YGE is what i call “the ideal entertainment company” ^^
http://www.allkpop.com/2009/12/tvxq_top_earnings_in_korea_for_2009
1) TVXQ ₩ 127,340,000,000 (around $109.1 million US dollars) *
2) Rain / Bi ₩ 62,000,000,000 (around $53.1 million US dollars)
3) Big Bang ₩ 20,000,000,000 (around $20 million US dollars) *
4) Super Junior *
5) Kim Hyun Joong
6) Ko Hyun Jung
7) SNSD / Girls’ Generation *
8) Lee Byung Hun
9) Yoo Jae Suk
10) Kang Ho Dong
TVXQ’s revenue was estimated at ₩ 127,340,000,000
Suju is at no 1 and SNSD is at no 7
BB’s revenue was estimated at ₩ 20,000,000,000 and 2NE1 is not even on the list
and after all,SM Ent is #1 with 61,788,490,000 KRW in sales and YG is # 2 with 35,693,360,000 KRW
I don’t understand it
How can YG do that? lolol
I think these are just gross earnings not net earnings. SM overhead costs were probably bigger because they’re bigger groups.
From My point of view,
YG only promote BB&2NE1 = lesser cost and earn more but now 2ne1 are hiatus and BB in japan, not earning that much anymore.
SM promote lots of groups idols and that spent a lot of money and time but SM will handle their schedule tight so SM still earns from that.
JYP should focus on WG in korea since they won the DaeSung, should stay 1year not just going boldly to America and start over again. but hope WG succeed. and JYP lose money and reputation maybe becuz of 2pm? I not too sure about it, just a feel.
I perfer YG more, cuz they treat their artists more like human(family), not tight schedule and close relationship. I believe their family relationship in SM and JYP but sure not as good as YG.
Once Again, This is MY POINT OF VIEW~ ^.^
~No Offence to ANYONE~
SM is collecting money for a museum.
Shinhwa is history, DBSK is going to be an artifact soon enough and SNSD, just wait a year or two, they’ll disappear.
Ohh, and Super Junior…did they break up even before they existed? >:o
go to hell, loser LOL
LIKE OMG! HOW CAN ANYONE BE PROUD OF MONEY-LEECHERS SM???
GOSH!
You are so right! All these people crowing over sm’s profits, but how much of this profit is going to the artists that they are fans of. Very little I would guess, especially the big groups. DBSK is suing and there are only five of them.
Maybe those people are fans of LSM and really don’t care that their idols are being worked like slaves and paid peanuts.
sm ent. is the worst!
yg is loaded… what a dream company. everyone is a family,, even the outcast daesung is still happy *I mean I kinda sad,, he doesn’t fit yg community and friends but in big bang they’re good*.. whoever will be with GD is luckyyyyyyyy
what do u mean daesung is outcast? think first before u said something like that. daesung is so talented and cute! he has the charisma that other kpop idol’s don’t have. so don’t u dare say that again! araso?!
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LOL at some comments.err. all i can say is that I’m proud of YG, SM, and they must keep up the good work. and I’m happy for the big success of YGE. they deserve it considering they only have 3 big artists (Big Bang, 2ne1, Koo Hye Sun). GO GO GO!
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lol who gives a fuck? Did I get any money from this? No.
If SME only had two acts(those acts being SNSD and DBSK) and handled them correctly, they’d probably still make more money than YGE. Because we all know DBSK is more popular than Big Bang and SNSD is more popular than 2NE1.
True but poor thing, DBSK and SNSD prolly never get what they’re earning. Atleast Big Bang and 2NE1 get what they’re earning.
Haha..DBSK debut ealier than BigBang and same goes for SNSD. SNSD become popular only when ? last year right? I like both groups..really want to see REAL showdown between BB & DBSK .
SNSD didn’t become popular last year. ALL of their singles won awards. Last year, they became Korea’s top girl group but they were definitely popular before that.
Korean fanbases (daum) – this list is not recent but I’m pretty sure this is the actual ranking:
1. TVXQ 783805
2. Bigbang 366398
3. Girls Generation 297771
6. Super Junior 248616
8. SHINee 116447
11. 2NE1 96690
Just look at the huge difference between Big Bang and DBSK, it’s not even funny. Not to mention that Super Junior has 2 fancafes, so, if you do the maths, Super Junior’s fanbase is bigger than Big Bang’s as well.
I’m not trying to create fanwars here. SME’s marketing strategies are amazing, that’s why their acts have so many supporters.
I’m not putting down 2NE1’s achievements – for a rookie group – what they’ve done is pretty amazing, but facts are facts. You can talk about the time they’ve spent in the industry and all but facts are facts and SNSD is more popular.
wrong
Bigbang has 2 fancafes too
naver and daum= <600,000
so if you do the math
Bigbang has more fans than suju
just like you,I'm not making a fanwar
just making a bit of correction
@nom nom nom is correct
thanks for pointing out..
Naver fanclub
1. BIB Bang 300 000+
2. DBSK i dont know the amount but the difference is a lot also..
Don’t even talk about SUJU. I love them. But they are no where compared to BB. They are only popular in international countries..
DBSK is going to be history soon..I am sad.
I will never be a cassie bc I hate cassies..ps DBSK is not gods..
i shall applaud you for your ridiculous comparisons.
you’re comparing big bang and dbsk; one who debuted 2 years earlier than the other. and i should question you for the existence of dormant or extinct fans?
truth for a fact, yes SM does have great strategies to make his ‘children’ popular, yeah, with all the variety shows..one after another. thats what korean people like right?
Big Bang gives real music. Just feel that i should state that.
Not creating fanwars.
^
DBSK naver fancafe has around 80,000
Super Junior naver fancafe has around 90,000
agreed
BB is definition of real music
music what’s matter the most to me
lmao,typical cassie
always comes up with statistic/number
they really love statistic i think,lol
for me
I’ll judge someone based on the quality of music
even if the whole planet is your fan, but if your song is crap
you are still not good in my eyes
@ – @nom nom nom and @3xnom –
Super Junior has two big fancafes on Daum. I didn’t add other sources, because this is the most accurate one. I was just talking about the Daum fancafes. Get it? Don’t add other sources.
@ blergh@nom nom nom – “Big Bang gives real music”. What are you insinuating? DBSK don’t? There’s a reason why they have the world’s largest fanbase. If they didn’t give real music, they wouldn’t be where they are at the moment. Their amazing vocals, perfect harmonization and songwriting skills give them an artist status on their own.
I love Big Bang too, but I’m not gonna write an essay about them since their ability as musicians is not being questioned here.
^
So
DBSK (700 000 + 80 000)
BIG BANG (300 000 + 300 000)
Lol at you..see who is getting funny here considering DBSK debut 2 yrs ealier than BB.
I don’t know if DBSK give real music or not..but one reason to like them for sure is good LOOKs.
Just their looks can bring half of the fans that they have..
@DBSKhardcore=nomx3
I don’t know where the fuck you got those numbers from roflrofl
DBSK’s Naver fancafe has 777,359 members, not 90000.
Big Bang’s has 259.132 members, not 300.000.
You do the maths. Things just got funnier, hun?
lol lol lol
Are you a cassie? That 777+++ is daum, not naver..
lamo..funny you..memorize all the numbers
You’re right. I got it all messed up >_>
This fanwar is starting to get annoying, quite frankly. I love both DBSK and Big Bang (DBSK more) but I don’t like this. Can we all support our favorite artists and stfu about everyone else? I love everyone from SM I just wish they would treat their artists like people. I hope DBSK don’t break up because they were at the peak of their career and they still have a lot of good music to offer. Whatever happens happens but I’m an eternal fangirl anyway.
DBSK fighting <33333333333
Cassies, please behave.
“BB is definition of real music”
lol and how would u define the term – real music?
It’s afterall based on your opinion, which means that it’s the type of music that u like. not because of it’s ‘real-ness’.
YG Family Family Family!
“We fly, look at us above your head.”
when it comes to 3 major companies
fans go crazy. LOL
personally, they’re all doing very well on their business.
I wish the other companies will succeed too. especially Jungle ent of Tiger JK. when i see his studio in bad condition, i cant help but feeling hurt.
The true music and true respectable personality like that deserve more money for his hard-working
Its loss
With JYP making WG go to Korea and BB going to Japan… aren’t they the same story? Both artists promoted in different countries as rookies, but why is it that JYP lost that much?
Personally, I think WG’s is a bigger risk because mainstream america is the toughest industry out there — there’s more factors to be considered compared to say, Japan (regardless of the fact that it’s 2nd to USA). Se7en had a hard time back then, too. More or less, JYPE already knows that. The bigger blow, I think…was with 2PM. Sure they wasn’t as big as WG, but they catapulted to fame last year. To have that big blow would definitely cause some rough ride for the company. Having to promote a group in America, but to fix a problem in Korea along with it would definitely make some problems. ^_^
SM always win in OPERATING profits, simply because they have more groups. To whoever said, more groups = lost profits is WRONG. Goodwill, name, brand, and etc. IS the profit. Just cause they have more groups it doesn’t mean its more production costs, it all balances out, for the good, unless his groups aren’t popular with the fans. And as you can see SM Town fans flock together. I’m quite surprised he didn’t make more money, considering how many repackaged albums, groups, concerts, and shows they have.
YG did very well for only having, officially, one group active. BB was inactive in Korea in 2009 (granted the solos, CFs, etc.). And his production (concert quality, clothing/stylists, dancers) costs, as well as his new buidling costs are very high. YG would probably be richer, if he slowed down with high-costs production, but he reeks quality, not quantity.
JYP did good considering his big risk with the WG’s American debut (his biggest group). I thought he lost more cause they were inactive, and milked the same song for over a year. His choice is very risky, and I hope it pays off for him.
read most of the comments, and yours is a TOTAL WIN! I agree with everything you said. SM has a well established system when they debut idols or make them have a comeback. That’s gotta spell less cost to them since they already know the right people and places. It’s like clockwork and I’m sure they’ve allocated enough money from previous earnings for that. And SM is the oldest and largest of the 3 companies so their execs have they have higher bargaining power when it comes to their idols. I won’t be surprised if they got better deals in CFs and stuff than the other 2 companies just by influence alone. They’re also more cost-efficient. Which is most likely why they made the highest earnings this year.
YG doubling their earning is amazing. I guess debuting 2NE1 was a good move on YG’s part. I’m amazed that they made much profit coz their MVs and concerts looked really expensive. Then again, YG only has 2 artists active so that might be it.
JYP’s move is commendable but you gotta admit that YG also spent much with Se7en’s promotion in the US. It wasn’t only JYP debuting artists in the US but also SM and YG.
FTW! i love your opinion. =D.
I agree with BBTVXQLOVE
personally i would buy sm stock … (just saying)
hmm maybe i should hahaa
oh btw, whats up with allkpops article of this?
extreme yg bias?
I didn’t read the article. but it’s AKP. what can you expect? non bias articles? Impossible to find it there. =P
plus when has AKP ever been biased on YG? they are known to bash YG, right?
i just have to laugh at your comment. go to allkpop, a site that is often joked as anti yg, and the article is the same. YG made a lot of money this year. it was from a korean article.
I guess the thing with most YGErs (k-fan and i-fan), is that they actually buy albums and download music legally for the most part. i’m not saying fans of other ent. companies don’t do that, but as I yger myself i know for a fact that a lot of us buy their music.
Yess so true…BigBANG album is the the first album I bought.
BB is the pride of YG and VIP.
HAHAHA…I have to agree with this! seriously, BB and 2NE1 are the only kpop idols that I actually buy albums and DVDs from….aside from SHinhwa…LOL…and I know most of my friends do so that actually said alot! hehehe
That’s very true, YG artists are the only ones I purchase albums for….only because I know I’ll never be disappointed and they do a great job in packaging their albums in a novel way~
Yep. YG stans support their idols by buying their albums… Actually, last week, even with the lack of promotions, 2ne1 hit the #6 spot in the weekly album music charts in Gaon. Pretty impressive, i must say.
i guess i can say
as a jyp-er myself, i know for a fact that a lot of us buy their music.
wait wait wait you fellas are misinterpreting my point.
i was jjust emphasizing the bias. whether it may be towards yg or another company, its just another faulty article i think the writers should try to correct. i know some writers there are really good and well respected writers. i wont name names, but some are really good. grammar wise, and non bias. they show fandom for kpop in general but some writers just seem really amateur and illicit bias when they try not to thats all.
just stating another flaw
and funny you point out this ‘flaw’ on an article that supposedly favors yg. i’ve been reading articles like these and there are countless articles have other biases too.
yge made the most. SME actually did overall, but because of how much earnings yge jumped at the past year, of course their growth would be emphasized.
agree. i only spent my money for BB and 2ne1 cd!
SM fans buy their artists’ albums. Is it any wonder why DBSK, Suju, and SNSD always have high album sales.
I pretty much only own Suju and SNSD albums. I only have one WG album, and I wanna branch out, since there are so many great groups with good music.
whole bunch of people commenting when they know little to nothing about that illustrious word, “profit”.
anyways, wg went out to america and money says they loss money. tell me, wg has accomplished all they could have possibly accomplished in korea. there was not an award they did not win. if they were to stay in korea again for 09, whats there to perform for? a repeat of the prior year? -_- it was an investment worth taking. that elite status wg achieved in 08 should solidify them within the korean market. that said, it means that their fanbase should be loyal for their return, in this case, their 2010 return.
ask yourself this. if you had the opportunity to debut in america, would you? what do you have to lose? certainly not your korean star status, since you solidified that when you won all the possible awards you can win. its a cycle, year after year in kpop.why not take the bold chance and do something exciting and new? -_- you have to spend money to make money. the value of the company isnt measured within a year’s span. the value, equity of the company is measured far longer than its one fiscal year.
plus, this isnt even all about the idols. how many shareholders does each company have? how many employee expenses do they outpay? in the end, yeah, sm made the most and yg second, jyp third. but that doesnt mean anything.
epik high has their own label. they produce some really dope beats
finally, i agree wit u. the high profit doent say anything. they make money and then use the money for investment. we dont know anything about the inside activities.
and i think … Idols – who have been working hard – dont receive much from this. But they will continue to work harder for being more popular and make a position in korean entertainment industry. So when they have their own advantages, they will do their own business.
such as: Pi, Minwoo …
even if they wont open their own company, they will leave the old company to have a better self-control, like
SM: DBSK, H.O.T …
YG: Wheesung, Brave Brother …
JYP: Pi, G.O.D …
it was just the plain facts. JYPE lost some money not only because WG was in the states, but because of 2PM issue, too. You don’t need to emphasize anymore how WG took the risk because ppl actually acknowledge that. It was a commendable risk, but what do you expect? People were talking about incomes here. JYPE’s loss was inevitable because debuting an artist in mainstream america isn’t a walk in the park.
So they had losses this year, so what? There’s still 2010, and with WG coming back and 2PM too, JYPE will regain that profit sooner or later. You don’t have to point out how WG took a courageous jump in the USA because most ppl here know that.
…are you upset or something?
lol no. i was just saying. as much as we applaud wgs and as much as we talk about how they achieved almost everything in korea that going to the us is inevitable, it wouldn’t matter because a) ppl already acknowledge that, b) won’t change the fact that jype had losses this yr. and there’s nothing wrong with losing because it’s part of the business. i think this article isn’t yg bias simply for the fact that looking at the records, they made the most comparative earnings in 08-09.
JYPE did pretty well, considering they lost their top group for an entire year and had to rely on their rookie group (adding the big outbreak)~
OHYEAH. GG
2pm’s crisis. tsk tsk, all that wasted effort to hold those fan meetings and such that only ticked off fans even more.
too bad.. SM had lose DBSK
WOWZA. YG has got some serious moneymakers in Big Bang and 2NE1. who knew 9 people could make that much! =) Proud of them.
SM always has great numbers cause they are a huge company. most of that 61 billion won is probably SNSD. poor girls were severely over worked in 2009. =( i hope they are being paid fairly.
JYP had a rough year so it’s understandable that their values are lower. plus, they only have 2 groups (and only 2PM is in Korea) that are active as well.
LOL! u forgot 2AM 😛
Danggg there’s huge gaps between each company. O.O Not even close.
I’m not surprised SM earned the most in 2009. They had many active idols. :]
YG earned a lot of money even though they didn’t have many active groups… Only Big Bang and 2NE1 right? Props to them and YG, whoo! ^^
actually Mnet earned more 114 million but they loss 700,00+ last year.
Yg is doing amazing since not only do they only have two active artist but those artist never really do variety and only rack up advertisements . Jyp most likely should pull out of the us market because i don’t see the wg succeding. Sm is doing great obviously they have the most groups and the top girl group under them and produce 3885473 repackaged albums for their groups.
I know that BB always bring huge profit to YG
in 2008 alone is 18bilions KRW
and in 2009 the profit was doubled,no wonder BB is Top 5 in Korean Forbes
The concerts really brought a lot of money,so I’m hoping that they will held another concert next year
BB and 2ne1 fighting!
JYP should debut his another girl group “sisters” this year.
I watched their so many performances.
they are really talented & hardcore dancers esp sarah.
I heard that the news group will debut this year in july or something with sarah, jia, and fei fei. We’ll just have to wait and see if they can help jype.
ouch JYP
thats amazing for YG for the fact that there were only two active groups last year, BB and 2ne1…huge profit for just two groups? YG is so lucky and to think of it 2ne1 at that time was just a newly-formed band…wow, just wow!
that’s because he’s the best at creating hype and marketing strategy. let’s hope he gain more success with his artists this year!
I’m happy for YG…with the amount of money they spend on their ARTIST (ie. solo albums, big MV productions and grand music stages) rather than making money off them by putting them on endless variety shows and marketing them like crazy……YG is making back the money really well and their artists all appear pretty happy too~
100% agreed
yay!
Agree..kay
By looking at the net profit YG is doing very good.
Both Company and Artists are in the win-win situation.
YG artists shine as a group also as an individual.
They can nature their talents and shine.
In next 5 or 10 years, you will see the different.
SM artists will be very popular now but after their popularity dies down, they will be nothing.
For YG artists,
Youngbae = R&B king
GD = producer or his own ENT
TOP = actor
Daesung = national gapman or trot or soul singer
SR = actor or singer
What about other artists in SME or JYP?
lol..they will die down like shinwa or hot..
DBSK is on the way now, SUJU and SNSD in the queue.
@YGbabybaby: Please, you think Big Bang is gonna be together forever? An idols’ career isn’t long. That’s why Shinhwa and H.O.T aren’t around much, since they’ve aged.
Don’t bring down other groups to make yours look better. It only shows you don’t have enough confidence in them.
YG is clever.. he consider the best promotional means that will get coverage as well as income rather than getting their artist tired with full schedules. Well it’s no surprise with the $ YG gets in 09′ because of BB concerts, GD album and concerts, YB’s solo and etc. in addition 2ne1 successful debut. 90+% increase is amazing.. Bravo..
As for JYP hmmm its no suprise he loses alot with the controversies with 2pm and WG being away in US. let’s see how this year will become with comebck of WG (will they be able to compete) and 2pm they hold on?
I don’t get how people are saying JYP lost money because of the Jay incident. Don’t be so stupid. The incident happened 2 months ago, this article is showing how much money JYP made ALL YEAR! Hottest were still supporting 2PM with heartbeat (as they thought Jay would come back).
Anyways, a lost was expected with JYP since it’s been very costly sending the WG’s to the states, however now that they are doing a tour in the US (which is being sponsered!!), i hope JYP will make some more money (especially with tickets costing up to $150).
YG doing great with Big Bang and 2NE1 only making money for him. JYP is losing because of american promotion.
JYP losing profit, coz he don’t have rain anymore..
cos WG didnt have any music activity last years in Korea
He’s losing money with the Jaebum incident. Some Hottest aren’t willing to buy the album anymore if he’s not in the group. Even though Rain gave him a lotta money, he still would have made a lot if the Jaebum incident didn’t happen and/or WG was back in Korea.
@goddess kpop: i agree wit u.
we can clearly say that Pi/Rain is the artist who bring JYP the biggest profit
With WG coming back, as well as 2PM, JYP will surely regain their money 🙂 LOL I just wonder how a meeting between the big three takes place. XD Maybe they go to some expensive place with people that serve them left to right. XD
I don’t think so,because JYP groups like 2pm and WG have never had an impressive album sale except Rain which is ex-JYP,if they want to gain more money they should hold a concert every year like Bigbang,that’s the biggest source of money other than album sale.
But the hope is there ,the WG world tour=)
Actually the biggest source of money is with CF’s and getting paid by big companies. Wondergirls during their hay day were getting many CF’s deals and that was were they were making their most money from.
In Korea, no artist can make a lot of profit from CD selling, as you are aware CD sales in Korea are not really great (not in the millions like it used to be a long time ago).
2PM is going downhill. they were popular cos of controversies. as much as i really enjoy eyecandying them, they need some solid talent to stay at the top.
on the other hand, WG needs to produce another hit to make it big. SNSD – whom i believe dont really have much talents in singing w exceptions of course, has been dominating the charts in the absence of WG. & if i’m not wrong, while WG is promoting, SJ’s gna be out there too..
Competition’s gna be tough with the Top singers out there as well.. (- & that being Rain & Hyori)
(ON A RANDOM NOTE, WHEN IS SM GNA PROMOTE CSJH AGAINNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
SM always on the top.
Hope WG can success in states
You kpop fans should consider paying for the music for once
agree with 1234. SM Town ROCKS <333!!!
Haha you guys need to take accounting course.
Based on what they are putting in they should be getting more than that..
I agree with Lee. More groups, more investment. SM really took risk in that, making Shinee, Suju, SNSD & Fx cameback last year.. and they’re facing the lawsuit with DBSK & Hangeng. I’m pretty surprise tbh, their profit is still high despite of these issues because technically they loss during DBSK issue, but they managed to cover it up with SNSD huge success, and SuJu boosted popularity.
If you look at it, it seems SME should get more profit, but no. That’s not a guarantee. In fact, since they have been vigorously promoting their artists, the BTS & maintenance costs are high. The composers, the make-up artist, the manager, the trainees for the trainers, the recording process cost, the drivers… these are the things we don’t see on surface. So, the more artists you have, the more songs you need, the more promotion you organized, the more staffs you occupied, the more money you have to invest.
hell yeah SM is the top.
Look at his poor artistes/slaves!
SUCK MONEY SM
success with American activities? some would call JYP bold, I personally would call him stupid with this particular move.Looking forward to more minus dollars for JYP in 2010.
agreed.
it’s not your money so shut up
u shut up!
JYPE deserves it!!!!!!!!!
lol@meli
you shut up because it’s not your money either
lmao
JYP expected it.
he said during last year press conference
” even if they fail, they fail with proud ”
I bet no other kpop artist can achieve like what WG achieved in states
agreed with meli. JYP isn’t stupid. He knew as much as anyone that WG wouldn’t shoot straight up to popularity with the money rolling. He took that risk, and with that risk came the chances for WG to be known worldwide, and personally I think WG did great (better than any other artist that tried to come in my opinion)
do u guys know how much for 1 cd of WG in State?
about 1 $.
Dont know why JYP sell their cd with such a cheap price?
I know JYP isn’t stupid, thats why I said he is stupid WITH THIS PARTICULAR MOVE, he’s using the girls, I seriously don’t think the girls want to be over there (sure, they say their dream is to make it big in the states, but who doesn’t?), ultimately they are made to pursue JYP’s goals instead of their own, Im certain that they want to be in Korea instead.
@lee, The Wonder Girls sell their CD for $1 so that people would buy it thinking it’s affordable. JYP is aiming for high sales numbers, not profits in the US because if the WG make it to the Billboard charts, they will get the attention of the media, then they would possibly get invited to tv shows. It’s a marketing strategy.
a cd costs like 70 cents to make.
the middleman takes a hefty earning to distribute their cd’s.
selling it at 1 dollar (add a major LOL) is worse than opening a donut shop selling donuts at 50 cents. you just dont go into a business like that.
but thats my take and i didnt even knwo they sold their cd’s for 1 dollar.
Well they said that it would have been their eventual dream to come here. And it’s true that they wouldn’t have wanted to come to America, I mean seriously who wants to leave the country that they’ve been living in since they were little to go to another country where they can barely speak the language. But JYP pushed them to try harder and achieve bigger goals. Truthfully I agree with JYP. What else could WG achieve in Korea? A few more CFs? A few more awards? They took the risk to start anew, whether it was WG’s decision or not, it’s what happened, and they’re willing to stick to their decision to try to pull into the american market.
I want WG in S.Korea.
JYP SUCKS !!!!
fully agreed.
YG family dominating. YEZZIR
from which view are they dominating? care to point it out? you fail.
Despite having ONLY 2 artists (BB&2NE1) who are active, and SOME actors/actresses,YG really did well!hells yea! thts how you do it! barely showing at shows yet they make some big $$$ take notes SME!
stop illegally downloading and pay for the music for once!!
I’m sorry to say this. but the artists appear on TVSHOW as guest are not paid. and being on show just to be more popular.
the main income is from “concert/ cf, album and DVD sales”
yes, it’s not “Tvshow”.
Last year, YG did well with BigBang and G-dragin concert, They also did well in album sales and DVD sales. Thanks to Big Bang
@lee:
Yes, appearing as guests won’t get them paid but actually being on the show (i.e: hosting, dj-ing &etc.) I’m pretty sure the artists get paid for that. Correct me if I’m wrong but it didn’t say anything about them just being “concert, cf’s and DVD sales” but their whole profit for 2009 which obviously includes tv shows & other shizz.
well either way, its sm dominating. that’s reality. i guess its an opinion issue based on perspective of company strategy. grats to sm
I think he/she meant that YG only has BB in 2008 and only 2 groups in 2009(BB&2ne1),but the profit is still not that much different from SME which have been promoting more than 5 groups
agree.
U’re wrong. The more group u promote, the more money u will lose. especially when u’re promoting new group.
SM didnt make profit in 2007 and 2008. Because they invested their money in Boa [for her US training], and for their new band [Suju was not much popular that time , and rookie SNSD].
In 2009, DBSK and SUJU did well wit concert and album. SNSD became popular group – so they brought more money from CF, concert.
But, in 2009 SM promote 2 not-that-popular groups: shinee and F(x). i can say these 2 groups done make any profit at this moment.
SM debut 1 group/year, so their money for investment is so much larger than other company.
I just want to bring out this meaning. because it’s so funny to hear “promoting more groups brings more money for the company”
agreed @ lee
more groups … the more production they have to do
the fact they are able to create profit with all their groups they’re launching is incredible !
they take risks every year for new groups
@lee:
They were only judging 2009’s profits. Considering that SM’s artists are big now, so basically, they pull in more profits. And YG also launched one artist last year which was 2ne1 and SM with f(x)… and from what you said that production makes companies lose profit, but both YG and SM only introduced one rookie artist and plus, SM had 5 or more artists promote continuously for the whole year (with their radio shows, variety shows & etc.) What exactly made them lose profit? Most SM’s artists are already established, so even if they do something, all of their works will still be a hit and with their other side jobs, wouldn’t they be gaining more than losng? Plus, YG made 2ne1 go on a 6 month hiatus and with YG making Big Bang go to Japan, YG also lost profit on that because he invested a lot on Big Bang for that, and when they were promoting, he didn’t make them work as hard unlike SM, they only go on 1 shows per week.
@Kim
i agree wit u that YG doent make their artists work hard like SM. that’s the reason i appreciate YG.
I agree most of ur opinion. and u ask me this. what made SM lose profit, when both YG and SM invest in their group?
actually, i dont know much about 2 company’s insider info to tell u in detail. but there’re something, i will say wat i can clearly say:
– The number of artists YG/SM are investing in. SM have more training group and schedule to debut year by year.
– Compare 2NE1 and Fx success, u can see who bring more money. the fact that SM just release Fx to catch up the Girl group power of 2009.
– Suju and SNSD have so many members. to understand easier, BB and SUJU have the same CF contract, they both gain the same amount of money, but because SuJu have more members, they will spend more cost [clothers, food, car, dorm …]
– SM is bigger than YG, they definitely have more share-holder, employers… that cost more.
….. [dont have time to list all here…]
The loss of investment is required, the life cycle of Idol is about 5years. when a group is down, other group will replace them.
But i must admit that the way YG treat their artists is so much better than SM.
@lee
“But, in 2009 SM promote 2 not-that-popular groups: shinee and F(x). i can say these 2 groups done make any profit at this moment. ”
oh please shinee are popular
yet they might not be as popular as Snsd,suju
but they’re more popuplar than groups like t-ara, 4minute,2am etc. so if other small companies make profit from these unpopular groups then why can’t sm make profit from shinee?
even with f(x), their songs might not be popular, but they’re popular and have more fans than some other groups
if you guys look at the stuff that BB,2ne1 wore.they’re hell expensive compare to stuff that snsd, suju wore which are mostly home-made lol
so more members=more clothes
less members=more expensive clothes
so in a way they both equal out
“promoting more groups brings more money for the company”
i am so agree with this
look at all sm artists, they aren’t not just singers in a group
they also have solo activitie such as acting, djing, so they sure earn more money
lee your a dud. do you know know what your saying..
JYP family dominating !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JYP family is the BEST!!!
lol@gaydragon
delusional and gay,lmao
I like g-draggin better.
you guys should pay for the music instead of downloading it
If I like an artist enough that I feel like I should pay for them, then I will pay, your statement isn’t gonna change anyones mind, so why the f are you posting it over and over again.